Not got a clue ?? Page 1 Ebbern and Paling families

We start this section with photographs sent to the site by Pam Bates. The people in them are connected to the Ilkeston Ebbern and Paling families of the late 19th and early to mid 20th centuries

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The Paling family of Cossall (with an Ebbern connection)

Firstly, a brief family history. (You can find more detail on Page 7)

Born in West Hallam on November 3rd, 1846, Thomas Ebbern was, in later life, a butcher, trading in Bath Street until he retired to a farm in Cossall in 1899.
On March 3rd, 1872 he had married Mary Birch at Ilkeston Parish Church, and the couple had at least nine children, the youngest being Annie, born on May 4th, 1892.
In 1915 Annie, then aged 22, married coal miner Arthur Edwin Paling, aged 29 … they had three surviving children, including twins Elsie and May, born on August 24th, 1916. Neither twin married, and lived part of their later life at Green Lane, Ilkeston. Elsie died in 1996 and May in the following year. It was then that these family photos were passed to Pam by a family friend, Pam Bemrose.

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Photo 1: Let’s start with a photo where Pam does have a clue

Arthur Edwin Paling (1885-1959)

At the very top left on the reverse of the photo is written “A Paling (Dad)”/A.H. Taylor, Ltd. 262, Upper Parliament Street Liverpool, with a Branch at “Newcastle Chambers, Angel Row, Market Place, Nottingham”

In the early 1900’s the photographer A.H. Taylor had its main office at 262 Upper Parliament Street, Liverpool (its General Manager being F. Barnes). At one time it had a separate branch at 53 St. James Place in Liverpool, and other branches at Barrow-in-Furness, Southport, Manchester, Sheffield, Newcastle, Warrington, South Shields. Leicester, Hull, Huddersfield, Oldham, Blackburn, Bolton, Burnley, Bristol … and at Newcastle Chambers, Angel Row, Market Place, Nottingham.
The company appears in Gore’s Directory of Liverpool for 1909 and 1910.

Above, we find a record of Arthur Edwin’s ‘arrival’, and looking at Photo 1, it shows a young man in his late twenties or early thirties  (What do you think ? ). Arthur Edwin was born in late 1885, dating this photo to 1905ish to 1920ish !

The next group of photos shows Annie Paling (nee Ebbern), wife of Arthur Edwin.

A copy of Annie’s birth certificate


Photo 2a: Annie Paling nee Ebbern

As I hope you can see, the first photo above (2a) was taken by Gibson Brothers of King Street, Nottingham. There is an excellent website on Derbyshire Photographers, which also includes some in neighbouring Nottinghamshire, compiled by Brett Payne.  (Photographers and Photographic Studios in Derbyshire)
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~brett/genealogy/photos/dbyphotos.html
Within it, there is section on the Gibson family, photographers of Derby and Nottingham, who traded in the towns in the 1880s onwards, one of their trade addresses being King Street, Nottingham. However the family business name is usually shown as G.Gibson & Son(s) … Gervase (1839-1929) was the patriarch … and not as ‘Gibson Bros.’
The site gives much more detail on this family business, with examples of its work, which might help to date the above photo.

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Photo 2b: Annie Paling nee Ebbern


Photo 2c: Annie Paling nee Ebbern

Both the two photos above were taken by ‘Fred Ash’. Photo 2b was taken about 1924. Notice the pendant and brooch, and the different necklines of the blouse, which may help to date the photos.
Frederic Joseph Ash was born in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, in 1860, the son of Nottingham-born photographer Edwin Ash (1834-1892) and Alice (Harrison).  By 1881 he was living with his widowed mother in Lancashire, working as a photographer and was still in the county in 1891. The 1901 and 1911 census returns show his residence at 22 Raikes Parade, Blackpool. However he appears to have had branches in several places. For example Slater’s Trade Directories of 1903, 1909 and 1911 show him trading at 40 King Street, Salford. He also had studios in Blackburn, Derby and Leigh, and by 1909 had a studio at 20 Long Row in Nottingham. He also had connections with several other towns, mostly in Lancashire.
Frederic Joseph died in 1929.


Photo 2d

And do we see the same young woman, Annie, in this group ? Wearing the same clothes as in 2c

Pam writes … “I believe all these young women belong to some “club” or organization.  All are wearing the same necklace around their necks.  Lady Masons perhaps?   Early Job’s Daughters?  No idea but they look serious!  There also appears to be Greek lettering on the curtain behind the girl standing on the right.  The girl seated on the right is wearing some kind of brooch hanging on a chain.  So there is a link amongst them, but it isn’t a family link.”

I can see no family characteristics within the faces or bearing of the group … What do you think ?

I suggest a date range of 1910-1920 for the photos numbered 2a-2d. Who will dare to disagree ?? !!

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Photo 2e

Above is a group of wedding guests … and top left, is that the same young lady — Annie Paling (nee Ebbern) — wearing the same pendant ?
The main wedding party, including the bride and groom, is shown below.

Photo 2f

Pam speculates that photo 2f may have been taken at the wedding of a brother of Arthur Edwin.

It seems not to be the marriage (too early ?) of older brother Thomas William, who married Lizzie Driver Smith, who was born in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire (1878-1947). The pair married at St. Catherine’s Church in Cossall on August 4th 1900, and had at least five children, three of whom survived — Thomas Henry (1903), Millicent (1905), and Desdemona (1907, but registered at birth as ‘Desmond’ !!). For many years they lived in Shaw Street, Ilkeston.

Lizzie Driver Smith was the illegitimate daughter of Elizabeth Ann who, in 1881, married Henry James Strawther.

Photo 2g

Is this the bride and groom (and one other) in 2f ?

Photo 2h

Photo 2i

And do these two photos show the same young lady … that is, the bride in 2f. Who is she ?

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But here is one marriage we can be sure of ….

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Could these three young chaps (below) be more Palings ?
Arthur Edwin Paling was the son of Thomas senior and Hannah (nee Cook). He had several siblings.
Thomas William was his older brothet, born on February 24th 1878. Then over seven years later Arthur Edwin was born on September 21st 1885. Younger brother Frederick Henry was born on January 15th 1889, followed by brother Samuel Charles on November 23rd 1893. The final child was Leonard born in 1896.

Photo 2j

Pam suggests …. These dates tally with the 3 boys in the photograph above.  If that is Thomas William in the back, he looks about 11-12, which would make the boy on the right side Arthur Edwin, about age 5, and the little chap on the left Frederick Henry, age 2 perhaps.  Approximately. (Of course the last two sons not in the photo as they weren’t yet born.)
And if Thomas Jr. is the boy in the photograph, age about 11, this would be about 1889/90 or thereabouts.

Alfred Seaman was a well-established photographer with premises in Chesterfield and Ilkeston in the latter years of the nineteenth century and into the twentieth. There is an excellent history of his business, compiled by Brett Payne at Derbyshire Photographers’ Profiles. You can see his Ilkeston premises in the photo at the Grand Tour


Photo 2k

Here (above) is Annie in later life, and (right), she is with her mother-in-law Hannah (nee Cook), and her three children ….

Elsie in front of her (possibly), May and Frank.


Photo 2l

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Arthur and Annie Paling’s only son Frank, worked on the trains.   Pam wonders if this photo has any connection with him.   He was born in 1919.

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Pam has sent many other photos which form the rest of this section … but you can share yours at any time.

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