Three empty shops

We move on from Fritchley’s farm …. to find

“The next three shops were on the Carrier property against the factory entrance. In those days shops were not always occupied, and these shops were empty for some years.”

In 1871 these three shops were at 110-112 Bath Street.

I’m afraid the above map is the best I can do. It is adapted from the Local Board Map of 1866. I have numbered the three shops, after which (south) is the entrance alley to the Carrier factory, followed by the premises of Joseph Carrier. On the opposite side of Bath Street (to help get your bearings) you can see Mount Street at the top of the map, poorly marked (upside down) … can you ?
Number 4 is White’s Yard, off Bath Street.

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Shop 1 at number 110 Bath Street

“Mr. Joseph Carnill, watch and clock maker, took the lower shop. He also worked a warp frame at Carrier’s.”

Son of Bramcote lacemaker Stephen and Mary (nee Hewitt), Joseph Carnill married Hannah Elizabeth Thornely, daughter of Wollaton farmer William and Mary (nee Weston) in September 1857.

At the beginning of 1858 lacemaker and watch and clock maker Joseph took over the shop recently occupied by Edwin Wragg, close by the Pioneer offices in Bath Street; Edwin had moved into the Market Place.

Hannah Elizabeth died in 1865, aged 29.

In 1868 Joseph married Emily Cliffe Wells, daughter of shoemaker Thomas and Amelia (nee Parkin) of Beckingham, Nottinghamshire.

14 Joseph Carnill 1873

15 Joseph Carnill 1873 2

  Ilkeston Pioneer May 15th 1873.  © Trustees of NEWSPLAN2000


The family moved to Basford in the mid-1870’s where Joseph continued to trade.

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Shop 2 at number 111 Bath Street

John Wilson, shoemaker, had the middle one,

We shall meet John later as we walk around the corner into East Street. However he is shown at this shop on the 1871 census. Before he moved in, it was occupied, for a brief period, by cordwainer Samuel Shaw.
He was the son of William and Mary (nee Mather) — and thus was the younger brother of builder Frederick, the older brother of Hannah who married carpenter James Frederick Straw of Stanton Road, and the older brother of Mary who married Samuel Rice of Park Road.

Almost two years after the death of his father (December 12th 1863), Samuel married Mary Ann Boam (September 12th 1865).
She was the oldest daughter of Henry and Ellen (nee Chambers) — born in Shipley, Derbyshire, her father was a stockinger, later a coal agent and then a coal contractor/merchant, trading in Derby where he was eventually appointed Mayor of that city (1895).
Just over a year after his marriage Samuel was an unsuccessful and bankrupt shoemaker. He owed money to draper Joseph Carrier for rent on this shop property, to Thomas Barker for rent on a recently-vacated workshop property in Lees Yard, and to George Tooth for raw materials. There were several other debts owed to out-of-town tradesmen. In total he was over £163 ‘out of pocket’. Included in this was the sum of about £13 owed to his father-in-law .. and it was with Henry Boam that Samuel now went to live, leaving behind his Bath Street home and shop.

In the week before his confirmed bankruptcy at the end of November 1866, it was alleged that Samuel had removed several items of furniture and belongings from his home, in an effort to take them out of the reach of his creditors. In this unlawful subterfuge the shoemaker had been aided by father-in-law Henry Boam and landlord Joseph Carrier … who both, as creditors, had a vested interest in this enterprise. A sofa, a set of drawers, a stitching machine and a hamper filled with smaller items belonging to Samuel were found on Joseph’s property, next door to Samuel’s shop. The furniture had been bought by Joseph while the stitching machine was being held as security by Henry against loan to Samuel — at least that is what the’ abductors’ were claiming !! 
This argument was not accepted however, and the items were seized and sold by an officer of the bankruptcy court.

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Shop 3 at number 112 Bath Street

“but the top shop had a succession of tenants” ….

perhaps one being George Youngman (note the address and location in the first advert)

both adverts appear in the Ilkeston Leader of June 29th 1861

George came to Ilkeston with his family about 1855 and died there on Christmas Day of 1866.


“another occupier being Mrs. John Barron, general store.”

Mystery alert!
John Baron was Wesleyan Methodist minister who in 1861 was living in Chapel Yard, South Street, next to the Wesleyan Methodist chapel there, with his wife Elizabeth (nee Bridge?).
Was she ‘Mrs. John Barron’?

White’s Directory of 1865 shows confectioner Elizabeth Barron trading in Bath Street.

On the 1871 census it is occupied by widow Eliza Hallam, grocer and baker, and her family. She had been born Eliza Adams of Heage, about 1836, and had two illegitimate sons before she married Joseph Hallam on August 25th 1861. Joseph worked for a time with Bath Street baker Solomon Beardsley but died, September 18th 1867.

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And we can now enter the factory yard of  Henry Carrier and Sons.